Okay: I expected nothing. Found no vines in the way, no trash on the trail, and when you get to the turnaround dont stop.....cross the low-water crossing, to the left and right a very long, fun trail. Way off to the right you climb along the canyon wall and up to a small dam. Solitude: only saw 2 guys walking a dog in 80 minutes (passed them twice). Reminds me of Balcones Park hike but more remote and no scary tunnels and the nearby houses are much further away. Definitely a 3 maybe even a 3.5 We'll be doing this one again.